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Ganjastep    511,503

Halfstep?

wouldn't this be Hybrid Dubstep?

has a very dubstep vibe with a multi-kick setup, and no off-beat snare

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Ganjastep    511,503
27 minutes ago, balaka said:


100% :)

How?

 

 

DnB (from what I understand) has an off-beat snare.

And this snare is very much on-beat.

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kittyka    41,312

Depends what you mean by 'on' and 'off' beat.

99% of electronic music is 4x4 tempo (four quarter notes (semi-quavers) per beat, four beats per bar) with the snare landing on the 2 and 4 beat:

K...S...K...S...
1...2...3...4...

K=kick
S=Snare

Typical rock beat, or house beat, or "4 on the floor" beat. It's all the same.

DnB averages around 160bpm
Halftime 80bpm

In both genres, the snare is on the 2 and 4, but as halftime is, well, halftime, it could be described as still 160bpm, but with the snare now landing on the '3' beat. (Same as dubstep with 140/70bpm etc).

Whether it's 2 and 4 @ 80bpm, or 3 @ 160bpm, it sounds the same and they're both still technically 'on beat'.


If we're talking about 'vibe', I can't hear how this is anything but halfstep. Stylistically it fits with every other post in this section :)

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Ganjastep    511,503
7 hours ago, balaka said:

Depends what you mean by 'on' and 'off' beat.

fuck.. you are so god damn right! I fucking love it! 

I guess I would be considering 1 and 3 as "on-beat" and 2 and 4 as "off-beat"

7 hours ago, balaka said:

halftime, it could be described as still 160bpm, but with the snare now landing on the '3' beat. (Same as dubstep with 140/70bpm etc).

 

In my experience, and I definitely do not have a lot of experience with DnB, this is incorrect

To my understanding Halfstep is DnB without the first snare.

Which leaves the Snare on 4 (or off-beat), and I have come across Halfstep tunes that adhere to these guidelines

I can give some examples if you would like

But then I run into this...

This on-beat snare, which in my opinion, gives it a Dubstep structure because it is now an on-beat kick/snare pattern

But, like many others I have questioned about Halfstep with an on-beat snare, you say it's definitely Halfstep

But, unlike many others I have questioned, you were super informative with your response, I super appreciate that! :)

 

Because Drumstep is just Dubstep Structure at DnB Speeds

Wouldn't this be Drumstep?

 

 

P.s. this makes me feel like Halfstep, Breakbeat, and Drumstep belong in the same section...

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Mich    229,460
1 hour ago, Ganjastep said:

fuck.. you are so god damn right! I fucking love it! 

I guess I would be considering 1 and 3 as "on-beat" and 2 and 4 as "off-beat"

 

In my experience, and I definitely do not have a lot of experience with DnB, this is incorrect

To my understanding Halfstep is DnB without the first snare.

Which leaves the Snare on 4 (or off-beat), and I have come across Halfstep tunes that adhere to these guidelines

I can give some examples if you would like

But then I run into this...

This on-beat snare, which in my opinion, gives it a Dubstep structure because it is now an on-beat kick/snare pattern

But, like many others I have questioned about Halfstep with an on-beat snare, you say it's definitely Halfstep

But, unlike many others I have questioned, you were super informative with your response, I super appreciate that! :)

 

Because Drumstep is just Dubstep Structure at DnB Speeds

Wouldn't this be Drumstep?

 

 

P.s. this makes me feel like Halfstep, Breakbeat, and Drumstep belong in the same section...

This is halftime for sure.

Also I agree on the fact that drumstep should be in d&b as it is the same bpm ranges.

breakbeat however has a totally diff bpm range

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Ganjastep    511,503
5 hours ago, Mich said:

This is halftime for sure.

 

but why?????????

 

 

5 hours ago, Mich said:

Also I agree on the fact that drumstep should be in d&b as it is the same bpm ranges.

breakbeat however has a totally diff bpm range

 

Naw it would go beyond BPM

a DnB influenced section, like;

Breakbeat = DnB Structure, Dubstep BPMs

Halfstep = DnB Structure w/o 1st Snare

Drumstep = Dubstep Structure, DnB BPMs

 

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Ganjastep    511,503

@balaka & @Mich

 

I am having trouble...

I thought Halfstep adhered to DnB Structure just w/o first snare...

 

but, from what I am grasping, 

Halfstep has a Dubstep Structure and DnB BPMs

but

Drumstep has Dubstep Structure and DnB BPMs

 

 

if that is true,

what is Difference between Drumstep and Halfstep?

 

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